Jummp time6/23/2023 ![]() ![]() And so then, how do you see 2012 playing a mythic role? What do you see as a date, how do you see that functioning? Jean Houston: Yes, useful and also equally absurd and funny. Tami Simon: So for you, if other people were all rallying around 2022, you could see that as potentially a useful mythological form. You know, it’s like death, the notion that you’re going to die soon focuses the mind wonderfully well. I just think it’s a nice year to work towards and perhaps to begin to give us back some of the intensity we require to continue on the journey toward it. I, myself, don’t have any particular oracular or ecstatic or even evolutionary feelings, or apocalyptic feelings for that matter, about 2012. We love dates because it gives us something to look forward to and look beyond. We are, I think, date-specific hysterics. Same thing with Y2K, you know with the year 2000. The human race has been filled with critical years, I mean in the year 1000, people were thinking the world was going to end, and so people would sell everything and go sit on top of a mountain and wait and then nothing happened. And everybody ‘s looking for a door, a portal to that larger life and 2012 either exists as a sort of frissance, something that makes the hair rise on the back of the head, or as a lovely opportunity. A myth is the coded DNA of the human psyche that says it’s time to journey now, it’s time to move on. ![]() ![]() Now, a myth is something that never was but is always happening, you know. Jean Houston: As the daughter of a comedian I regard it as a comical date, a piece of absurdity that has become attached to certain levels of the culture. And I’m wondering how you feel about that, and how you would both associate your work with 2012 and perhaps not. And all of the mythology and wishful thinking and, I’d say, undocumented scientific nonsense that’s associated with 2012. I think what I feel a little grumpy about is people, kind of in a naïve way, attaching to this date, 2012. In listening to you, Jean, and considering your work, I clearly don’t feel grumpy about the idea of human evolution and possibilities for us as individuals and society and the world. And what I’ve noticed is that I’ve started to become a little bit grumpy, in fact I’ve started calling myself the 2012 grump. Tami Simon: This is the third interview I’ve done in this series on 2012. She sees this time as a critical juncture point for humanity, which she calls jump time, and explains that throughout human history, we have dealt with many such times, but that this one may have the greatest importance of all. We discuss the nature of time, and change, in relation to 2012, a date that she finds humorous, yet important. By Tami Simon: This week I interview Jean Houston, one of the founders of the human potential movement. ![]()
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